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my upside down tomatoe plants (ROMA)

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by angelblossom on March 12, 2006 11:01 AM
Today my grandsons and I followed directions in planting upside down tomato plants Here we are doing it step by step I hope this isn't too many pic but there were a few people on here wanting to know what and how to do,, So here is mine pretty much documented for my own sake as well. I will divide this among a few post(s) I'm not sure the amount allowed per post [dunno]

Starting with the bucket andcoffee filter or paper insert (to prevent soil from falling out)
I used a small paper plate.
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by angelblossom on March 12, 2006 11:07 AM
now we inserted the plant into the paper plate then into the bucket hole being tender as to not tear the leaves
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by angelblossom on March 12, 2006 11:16 AM
Next "lift the plant up" and place soil between root ball and bottom of bucket so the stem is inside the bucket and only the leaves show thru as you fill the bucket with a composted soil mix
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I then planted impatients seeds on top of soil, but you can plant herbs or already starter plants, provided the roots of whatever you put on top will not take over the bucket needed for tomato roots. this is an option you can also put the lid back on top back on top loosely fitted .

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by angelblossom on March 12, 2006 11:23 AM
Well I under estimated the weight of the buckets Filled!! [Roll Eyes] [Big Grin] I had to run to Home depot and purchase a 2 sides(lshaped) steel bacing rod to help support the shephards hook ccuz' it Leeeaned waaay back when I first put the buckets up!
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Here's hoping for good romas this season!!!

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by MissJamie on March 12, 2006 11:30 AM
that is great! thanks for sharing all of that! I am soooo excited to do this this year! I think I'll plant marigolds in the top [Smile] keep us updated on the growing process!

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by detectorbill on March 12, 2006 02:56 PM
nice explanation and pic's, thanks!

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by Patty S on March 12, 2006 04:42 PM
I saw a picture of the up-side-down Tomato in a Gardening magazine recently, & wondered how they really did that!

Thanks HEAPS, Angelblossom! [kissies]

(Excellent photo illustration - Job well done!) [thumb]

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by weezie13 on March 12, 2006 11:13 PM
Ditto on all the above response's there Diane
and Grandsons!!!!
AWESOME JOB..
Great photo's, good documentary and everything looks realllllllly good!!!

I GOT REALLLLLLLLY EXCITED OVER THAT WHEELBARROW FULL OF COMPOSTED SOIL.... [grin] [flower] [thumb] [clappy] [Cool] [Love] [Love]

I can not wait to see the progression on this post..
THANK~YOUUUUUUUUUU!!!

*are your grandsons real budding gardeners...
or a reluctant ones??*
It's good to get them interested early if they are willing...

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by peppereater on March 13, 2006 12:53 AM
Is it essential to use a determinate tomato variety, so they won't get too big?
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by angelblossom on March 13, 2006 01:22 AM
Weezie.>>are your grandsons real budding gardeners...
or a reluctant ones??*
Weezie the older one is very interested, the younger one can take it or leave it unless I appoint one or two plants specifically 'his' then and only then will he claim it and is interested in taking care of it!LOL
Is it essential to use a determinate tomato variety, so they won't get too big?

Yes too big and too dense of tomatoes or any large producing fruit will break the branches And I wish I would have hung them higher it may reach the ground but one can put a tomato cage under the buckets to help support the branches as it grows: banana peppers , strawberries, and smaller fruiting plants are even better.

Oh yes one more thing I forgot to mention,, as the plant grows it will try to "turn up" towards the sun a site on net suggested using 'Fishing sinkers' to temporailey put on branches to keep growing in a downward position untill the length is such that the bucket doesn't 'shadow the leaves.

I'm just praying it takes hold,grows and produces!! I will post more as it progresses.

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by patches1414 on March 13, 2006 01:27 AM
GREAT JOB, angelblossom! [clappy] With your pictures and explanation you've already done a lot of the work for us. [thumb] I've heard of this and was interested because I thought it would eliminate any weed problems. I just wasn't sure of how to go about it, but now I know! Thanks!!! [muggs]

Now, I have two questions:

1. Instead of trying to feed the tomato plant through the hole in the paper plate and worry about damaging the plant, couldn't I just cut a slit to hole and slide the plant in that way; then mend the slit with a strip of paper and flour paste?

2. What kind of metal sifter do you have in your wheelbarrow, and where did you get it?

Thanks again for the wonderful information! [thumb]

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by weezie13 on March 13, 2006 01:33 AM
This is just food for thought Diane,
but have you ever seen those pulley systems
for people that want to put house plants on their porch??

and theres a string attached, they pull it,
the plant comes down to water, and then back up..

Would you have an area, that would get enough sun, and to be able to attach a pulley to something to get it up higher???????

Just an idea..
if you wanted it up higher and had a place to do it... [thinker]

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by weezie13 on March 13, 2006 01:35 AM
My little one's are the same way,
The oldest has "his" plants, different colored peppers!
The youngest loves to dig, and dig, and dig..
but I don't need the holes THAT DEEP, I tell him..
hate to not encourage him, but wow~zerzzzzzzzzz,
I could see China if I let him go...

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by angelblossom on March 13, 2006 01:46 AM
Patches: It was very easy to thread the leaves thru the hole and I don't see why you couldn't
cut the circle and slit open one side of filter or paper however you's still have to thread it thru the bucket and you can't split that I just held the leave together stuck it thru as my oldest GS, gentle pulled from the other side this was our first time but it really was quit easy. you don't have to use paper plate or filter spagnum peat moss or anything that will prevent soil from falling out will work .

2. What kind of metal sifter do you have in your wheelbarrow, and where did you get it?

I looked and looked for something to sift compost with I finally went to a resturant supply store and bought a huge deep fat fryer basket ($16.00) LOL I liked the fact that it has a long handle tho it has larger holes then I'd like. I also bought a larger screened mesh cornmeal sifter but if the compost is moist it just "mats' on the screen so I kinda gave up on that unless the compost is completley dry.

BTW I was too lazy to make my own sifter
[Roll Eyes] [lala] [Big Grin] .

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by angelblossom on March 13, 2006 01:58 AM
weezie I have seen the pully system but I don't have anywhere that would work for me,, however I really did think about drilling a hammock hook into the roofing ledge and hooking it up there, I could have still water it easy enough but DH wanted to wait... as this was another one of my "Experiments" [Roll Eyes] and if it proves successful then next season he would place heavy gauged hooks in the support ledges of roof [Big Grin]

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by weezie13 on March 13, 2006 02:07 AM
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DH wanted to wait... as this was another one of my "Experiments" and if it proves successful then next season he would place heavy gauged hooks in the support ledges of roof
Tell DH, I applaud him for at least helping in your experiments...
That's half the battle when you can get them to co~operate...

I think that pulley system would work, and would
realllllly give you that height you need..

Njoynit in Texas did the hang~up~side~down Tomatoes' too!!!!

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by Amigatec on March 13, 2006 02:09 AM
Another thought on the slit in the plate, you could use 2 plates and offset the slits on opposite sides.

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by patches1414 on March 13, 2006 03:26 AM
Angelblossum, I like the idea of using spagnum peat moss better than the paper plate. [clappy] I never thought of that, thanks!!! [thumb]

I've got plans for a compost sifter that someone posted on this site, but I haven't got around to making it yet. The reason I was asking about the one you have is because when I was at the Worm Farm yesterday they had something similar which they used for sifting the worm castings, but it didn't have a handle. I never thought about using a fryer basket, but I have an old one that I was going to put out in the trash next week. What a great idea, I think [thinker] this will work. Wow, thanks angelblossom! [thumb] Here is a picture.

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Hey, any worm people out there who could give me some feedback on using this to sift out the worm castings? [dunno]

patches [kitty]

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by weezie13 on March 13, 2006 04:54 AM
For me, I'd throw the worm castings
right in as I'm sifting the compost....
That way i'ts evenly spread inside all the dirt.

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by angelblossom on March 13, 2006 05:11 AM
patches Yep- that's it! I think mine is a little bigger in diameter but it works! LOL

I was even thinking of using a couple of old tomato cages for some starter vining plants I have because right now I can't afford to buy 3 trellis. plus it will give it a shape. Funny how us gardeners and improvise with things around the house
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by weezie13 on March 13, 2006 11:27 AM
Here's my sifter.....
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I like it that big, I can shovel big shovels full into it, and use the big shovel to rake it back and forth a bit... then get out my trowel, and rake it back and forth....

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by patches1414 on March 13, 2006 12:50 PM
Weezie, I'm not going to put my worm castings in with my compost. I want to use the dry fry basket to separate the worms from the castings like they did at the worm farm. I want to keep the castings for special things like planting in containers.

I am planning on building something like you have to sift my regular compost. [Wink]

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by patches1414 on March 13, 2006 01:01 PM
Diane, considering what I'm using the fry basket for I don't think I would want anything that was bigger, so this should be fine. [Smile]

It's probably not a coincidence that us gardeners can improvise with things around the house. It's actually a necessity since we spend so much money on all our plants and other garden needs. [Frown]

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by angelblossom on March 13, 2006 01:42 PM
patches: that's soo true mine is bigger but it also makes it heavier I have found to fill it half full for me makes it a little easier on my arms to sift [Big Grin] Oh how very well I know about spending $ on plants and garden needs I'm kinda like a shopaholic when it comes to plants My DH started to get irritated at all the $ spent so I ration my gasoline to give me 20 Xtr $ a week for my garden(s) I sometimes leave things at work and bring it in slowly and blend it in nicely so he doesn't notice ... too much [lala] [lala] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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by Francine on March 13, 2006 02:03 PM
hello angle,

i was in awe when i read your super posts and pix about those tomatoes,you reeeeealy made me want to do the same,i m so looking forward to the continuity of it all..tell your grandsons they did a good job helping....i m so looking forward to do the same...only one difference....SNOW<GRRR....you re so lucky to live in tx.

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by njoynit on March 14, 2006 03:06 AM
I used a 4 gallon bucket& my holes were in the sides as well and planted the top as well.Yes they are heavy....foam peanuts helps.I did celebirty my 1st one w marigolds..Early girl my 2nd time with marigolds tangerine& this year doing cherry tomatoes with banana peppers& contemplateing adding parsely& basil.I may hang from a tree.

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by angelblossom on March 14, 2006 08:09 AM
Njoynit: Did you find you had to water it more as oppossed to being in the ground ? Should I have put holes in the sides as well? About the peanuts did you just mix them in with the soil? I have one more I can do maybe I'll change it up with the third one!!?

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by njoynit on March 21, 2006 06:25 AM
I didn't find my peanuts that day(nor have I till this day...lol) My very 1st unpictured one was a regular hanging basket with the bottom saucer removed and 2 plants grown out bottom topped by marigolds.It may have needed watering more due to 1# my 1st Tx summer since was 14-16 which was coastal.Corpus Christi was totally diffeent up in Whitehouse,not to mention was my hottest summer ever(I enjoyed a day of 121 and the heat index was around 140+..........)2# soil type DOES matter.

peanuts reduce the weight of the pot....when ya got um.I currently have my 1 hanger low to ground for now& still looking for a home hanging spot.I sunk a qt pot in the center this way water will stay to the sides then fill the bottom plus water INTO the inner pot will drain below into soil drenching the roots of all plants.....hopefully.

I've got the picture.I've just not sat down long enough to unload them.plus I went to Brooks& Dunn& seen the rodeo& took 118 pictures while there(and wished could have gone back today....plant sale in the carnival area CASH& CARRY [tears] )

I been weeding.they pull easy after raining & my ducks are annoying me cause Tex won't accept my new duckies...not even after I yelled at him that I'd cook his A$$! [Mad] I can;t belive my duck is going to make MORE work for me!It looks like I'll have to divide their area & buy ANOTHER roll for $20 plus some posts.I guess hubby broke me from buying more ducks huh..lol

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by angelblossom on March 21, 2006 09:03 AM
I have a trash bag full of peanuts I'll use some of those the next one Whew yes it's IS heavy after this rain we've had the last two days my shepard hook bend over from the weight I had to straighten it and move it back toward the fence and use the steel post support for the fence and roped it on to there so next rain it will be alot sturdier!!

Sounds like Tex doesn't relish the idea of 'sharing' you!LOL and knows all to well your idle threats of cooking him!LOL

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by njoynit on March 21, 2006 10:38 AM
He looked at me like I wouldn't dare. [shocked] [nutz]

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by angelblossom on March 21, 2006 10:41 AM
[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [tongue] [tongue] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] says Tex!

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by angelblossom on March 21, 2006 10:47 AM
or would she? [shocked] could she? [shocked] [shocked]

NAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [Frown] [Love] [grin]

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by njoynit on March 21, 2006 09:29 PM
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There she is!I have 3 of these stands,but this is the only sturdy one.I'm going to secure the taller one(6 ft) and hang on it.I tried asking about screwing it to deck& got such a nasty look....I did not repeat the question.

planter has 4 cherry tomato plants 4 banana peppers,marigolds as they sprout.nasturiums.1 tomato out of bottom 2 tomato 2 peppers on side 1 tomato 2 peppers on top.I think i've popped 4 marigolds 3 on side 1 on top.I have a qt container in middle and its got the nasturuims& a marigold head I think might be my tangerine marigolds.

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by angelblossom on March 22, 2006 10:46 AM
OHHHHH I see ! I couldn't imagine what you meant with holes in the side thanks for the Visual! [thumb] [clappy] that bucket ought to be pretty heavy once they all grow to fruiting!
last year when they started to produce did any of the branches break off on the ones growing out the sides??

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by weezie13 on March 22, 2006 11:21 AM
They just had a thing on the QVC
2 of the upside down bucket things, for
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by angelblossom on March 23, 2006 07:50 AM
$23.00 [shocked] [shocked] [nutz] I got mine from work no charge and you can get them at walmart 5 gallon for 5 bucks I have seen the ones your talking about and they have some on the Internet too and prices vary but a 3-5 gallon bucket with a metal handle does the trick. A site on the internet also said to open a bag of garden medium plant a tomatoe plant in and watch it grow. I'm sure it will but but about drainage and mildew being in the plastic bag [perplexed]

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by BigJimSlade on March 23, 2006 11:28 AM
I have been doing this for a year now. There is a picture on this old link:

Picture of my upside down tomatoes

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by angelblossom on March 23, 2006 11:33 AM
BigJim Did they produce for you and did they break the branches???

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by njoynit on March 23, 2006 09:23 PM
no branches broke.but clebirtys we're not that heavey(and once it got hot...it took a break from like june till august)

Its heavier when wet than when on the dry side.

I'm thinking of adding holes on the corners next year to my hanging pot.

Ace Hardware has 3-5 gallon buckets and their 5 gallon bucket is only $3 and comes in white or red or green.they no longer carry the yellow.I would worry growing in a potting mix bag as it gets quiet hot in TX.

JIM~ It was proably the heat that stopped your production,but when your temps dropped some they should have picked back up and shot out some fruit.I could get fruit of celbirty till bout june,then was Sept when it picked back up.I had blossoms in between but no fruit,but from June-Sept we don't drop below 80& get triple digit temps quiet a bit too.Your plant looks good though.but think your pot should bigger.I wouldn't go below 3 gallon pot,plus you we're watering alot too huh.(I watered less in my 5 gallon pot,but was dangerous to my health to unhook& turn,plus fell of ladder one day doing so too.)

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by BigJimSlade on March 25, 2006 10:12 PM
Hi angelblossom!

I have never had a problem with branches breaking. The tomato plants I have are like giant water sucking weeds.

This plant have been producing fruit for about 8 months now. My tomatos never look like the ones in magazines, but I still have maybe 2 or 3 ripe ones at a time from this one pot.

Njoynit - thank you, and I agree, yes, I probably was watering them too much, expecially in the cooler months, you think? [Smile]
by Amigatec on March 27, 2006 06:01 AM
I have my bucket ready, I have to set my pole first.

I have a Celebrity ready to go in it.

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by weezie13 on March 27, 2006 06:23 AM
[thumb] [clappy] [clappy] [clappy] [flower]
Takin' pictures????? [thumb] [lala]

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by Amigatec on March 27, 2006 07:59 AM
I plan on it, but haven't figured where I want the pole yet. I should still have a half bag of sackcrete somewhere.

I have to cut the pole and I am going to notch the top. That should hold at least 2 up.

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by Mechele on April 08, 2006 08:18 AM
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by hisgal2 on April 09, 2006 01:59 PM
Would squash work with the upside down growing?? I don't really feel like building a trellis for the vines. I have about 10 squash plants that will need homes soon.

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by Deborah L. on April 09, 2006 02:22 PM
That sounds neat ! But I'm wondering if the weight of the squashes would break the vines?
Since they wouldn't have support? I'm not sure. [dunno]

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by weezie13 on April 09, 2006 08:13 PM
I've never done it...

but also you'd need to take into consideration
what kind of squash first?????

Some squash plants, like yellow summer squash and zucchini are either bush or vining...
the bush I definately don't think would work at all...

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by angelblossom on April 10, 2006 05:10 AM
Deborah... If I feel my tomatoes are going to be to heavy for the branches I will be putting a tomatoe cage under the bucket to help support the branches of course my buckets aren't too high so it will work I chose roma tomatoes because this is my first time planting UpSide down and it bears a smaller fruit. We'll see this season if I'm going to do this again next year. [dunno] [Big Grin]

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by weezie13 on April 10, 2006 10:24 AM
Diane,
Have you been takin' pictures of the new growth,
to see how it fills in????
Realllllllly lookin' forward to this post/thread
and how it looks as it gets by in time over the summer... [thumb] [thumb] [thumb]

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Weezie

Don't forget to be kind to strangers. For some who have
done this have entertained angels without realizing it.
- Bible - Hebrews 13:2

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http://photobucket.com/albums/y250/weezie13/
by Shawn M on April 10, 2006 06:52 PM
Wow! That really looks cool. You've given me some ideas, since I am limited for space. Tomatoes on the bottom and another crop on top...the possibilities are endless.

Thanks!

Shawn

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