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Sami
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Are all of these Virginia Creeper? All of these are from my yard & they look so different

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This last picture has 2 different plants that look like it to me. One under the building & one growing on the corner of the building. But both look different from each other.

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obywan59
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I think it might just be the difference between newer growth and older, more mature growth.

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Yvette37
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That 2nd one looks alot like the ones in my yard.
How the heck do you get rid of them??? They are worse than our wild grape vines. They both do not produce berries at all & kill everything we plant! [tears]
Plants: 9 | From: Rutland, MA | Registered: Jul 2004  |  Seeded: 205.188.116.73
Newt
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Hi Sami,
Not sure of the first or second pictures but the rest look like Virginia creeper in different stages of growth.

http://www.weedalert.com/weed_pages/wa_virginia_creeper.htm

The second reminds me of poison oak. Do the leaves come straight out from the vine without a stem?

http://www.weedalert.com/weed_pages/wa_poison_oak.htm

Newt

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Plants: 271 | From: Maryland zone 7 | Registered: Sep 2002  |  Seeded: 68.55.145.196
Sami
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I've been killing a lot of stuff in my yard & I think I've killed the plant that you say looks like poison oak. However, I found another one & it looks like it does grow without a stem but I thought that poison oak had 3 leaves like poison ivy. I can't tell the difference in the two, anyway.

I, also, have stuff that looks like poison ivy but has thorns. Poison ivy doesn't have thorns, does it?

Does Virginia Creeper have thorns? A whole lot of the stuff that looks like creeper, in my yard, has thorns.

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Carly
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Anybody try going to google.com and typing 'virginia creeper' into the window there?

Maybe I'll do it.

I just wanted to tell you that it all looks familiar - I seem to have something of each plant in our lot.

Let's see now ... I'm about to jump into the Black Hole of Google Dawt Com here . . .

This might be what you want to look at, Sami - I know I'm finding it informative:

http://www.fcps.k12.va.us/StratfordLandingES/Ecology/mpages/virginia_creeper.htm

Carly :-0

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Sami
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Yes, pretty informative, but still nothing about thorns. I have poison ivy everywhere along my fence line & I'm highly allergic to it, which makes me fear that I would be allergic to the creeper. Hence, my wanting to identify any that I have. Thanks for that link. [Smile]

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Newt
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The thorny one is probably smilax. Yuk! Another pest. If you look at the second link I gave Sami, it's about the poison oak. You can do a google on that one.

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Poison oak is identified by 1 ½ to 3 inch long leaflets with two to seven deep lobes resembling oak leaves. Lateral leaflets appear without stalks on viny stems about 3 to 4 feet tall. Like poison ivy, leaflets are grouped three per leaf, and flowers are yellowish.
Hope that helps.
Newt

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Sami
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OK, I'm pretty sure that the thorny stuff isn't Smilax...the leaves don't look anything like Virginia Creeper (the ones I've been able to find online). Still not sure what it is, but from all I can find, VC doesn't have thorns. Whatever it is, looks just like VC but has thorns all over the stems.

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Newt
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Sami,
Could the thorny vine be a wild rose?

http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/novak/rmnp/picsdir/f239.jpg
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/novak/rmnp/i337.html

Newt

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Plants: 271 | From: Maryland zone 7 | Registered: Sep 2002  |  Seeded: 68.55.145.196
Sami
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Sorry, Newt, I don't think that's it either. The 3rd & 4th pics in my original post, show the exact one I'm wondering about. Has 5 leaves like VC, but the stems are all thorny.

I don't know if these show it any better...

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Back Mountain NEPA
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Thorny reminds me of the wild blackberry bushes behind my yard.
Plants: 70 | From: Lehman Twp PA | Registered: May 2004  |  Seeded: 205.238.235.51
Newt
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Sure does look like blackberry.

http://www.mlrapcb.net/pest_blackberry.htm

Newt

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Plants: 271 | From: Maryland zone 7 | Registered: Sep 2002  |  Seeded: 68.55.145.196
   

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