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sibyl
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i took my seeds 12-1-06 folded em in a paper towl, stuck em in a bag!.i have,
blue flag iris
leopard lily
lily of the nile-2 seeds are sproutin!
blachberry lily
g,solomans seal
blue columbine-3 seeds sprouted!
beauityberry bush
hosta
pink,purple,white clematis
rose of sharon-10 seeds have sprouted and their already put in pots cause they got their true leaves!!!!

any one else doing this over the winter???????

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penny in ontario
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I will be starting some things in the new year....just have to decide what [Big Grin]

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tkhooper
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I did it last year and I may not be able to resist doing a few things this year. I'm trying not to but it's so hard. Maybe I should just go live in the national forrest and plant little things here and there throughout the forrest like Johnny Appleseed did across our nation. lol. I know I'm going nuts lol.

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roflol
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I don't know how you all do it... I've killed so many plants indoors already this fall that I'm terrified to try to *start* anything inside. I've told Tammy, at least while they are seeds they still have life in them - as soon as they germinate and see who's taking care of them [scaredy] , they lose the will to live. [tears]

I'm thinking I'll need to wait until closer to maybe Feb or March so I can put them outside sooner and they don't have to be in my house for very long. [Roll Eyes]

Sibyl, that's a nice mix of plants you chose, that lily of the Nile is really pretty! Penny, I have a hard time deciding on stuff too - what kind(s) of garden(s) do you work with? Tammy, I think you would make a good park gnome. [flower]

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those are all but the pink clematis from the seed swap [thumb] [muggs] lepardlily and purple clematis from roflol!
i did hostas one year and they took months to germiate, so i thought id start early this time.

[Big Grin] Tammy would be the gnome holding a LARGE bag of seeds! [Big Grin]

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and it just got larger. I couldn't resist buying more seeds when I got my parks seed catalog. But I'll fill in the details down in garden chat.

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Well i am glad its not just me.....i have so many wonderful seeds and only a little area in which to start them....decisions decisions.
Let me know what you start [thumb] [thumb] [thumb]

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sibyl
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penny you could always keep em as house plants!
heres my rose of sharons
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How are all of you starting these seeds? Grow lites? Heat pads? Anything else I should know? I was so excited to see your Rose of Sharons-- I have some of those seeds! I want to start some things inside now and then I got a bunch of seeds from the wintersown people that I will start in the cold frame in probably March or April.
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i just got a all white paper towl, sprayed it with water to dampin it, folded my seeds in it, then stuck it in a ziplock bagie, put em up in one of my baskets. [i have baskets hanging from my ceiling in my kitchen] you could put em anywere.
once they sprouted i put em in little pots with seed starter soil and once again put em in baggies [ the bagies give em the green house affect]just dont over water or youll get rot, or mold,
ive never done a cold frame so i dont know much about em.

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heres bluecolbines
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blackberrylily
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i took other pics but you couldnt hardly see em.

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Sibyl are u serious??? [perplexed] I have always done mine in either pellets or potting soil. Never thought of the paper towels. And I have a few of the seeds that you have started growing, also from the swap. Thank you all so much for your generosity btw. Oh boy, oh boy. I have more to do this weekend. Here's what I have so far tho. Love in a mist, Brandywine Tomatoes, Poppies,Hollyhock, Calendula, Malva Zebrina, Dianthus and what I believe to be a Musk Mallow according to envelope it came in, but it looks nothing like the pictures I've researched so far. And Saturday I started Anthemis Tinctoria, which already germinated. Waiting on Gerbera Daisy mix, Salvia Farinacea, Jimmy Nardello's sw. pepper, Maltese Cross, Amaranthus Candelabra and some Super Chili.

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[flower] you gotta lot of nice seeds to grow! i got some of the same seeds as you too! but im gonna wait til spring for those.
i do the paper towel/baggie cause its cheap and works! [Big Grin] and half my pots are just pop bottles cut in half [Big Grin] also cheap and works! [Big Grin] [grin]

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Sibyl,

Yes, I have started several seedlings as well over the winter. I just could not wait until spring.

(8) columbine
(4) rose of sharon
(12) delphinium
(6) Coleus

Is it true that perenials started from seeds will not bloom the first year?

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[thumb] i seen kennyso has answered your question! hes way more experienced with pernnial seeds than me [Big Grin] ive only did hosta before and i put em out in early spring it got too cold[frost] and all died off [Eek!] this is my first year for the others so im still learning. thought id start early so there strong enough for when i do plant em outside, and im waitin till mid spring! [Big Grin] [grin]

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Update on what has germinated so far.
Calendula, Purple Coneflower (not a very good germination rate,I must have done something wrg), Dianthus, Foxglove, Liatris over 2 weeks for this one, love lies bleeding (only 1 survived [tears] ), Love in a mist, Maltese Cross, Gerbera Daisy, Poppy (orange), Siberian Iris (just yesterday popped it's little head out and I sowed it on Nov 22nd and only 1 so far), White Mallow?, Wonder Egg, Anthemis tinctoria, Malva Zebrina. These were all from the Fall fling exchange and a previous exchg i did with someone. From Parks seeds, I couldn't resist buying another Amaranthus, so I have a few seedlings of the Amaranthus Candelabra, Helenium Bright Buttons, Salvia farinacea, and 6 Brandywine Tomatoes, which i must admit are getting bigger everyday. They are the fastest growing out of all the seeds I've sowed indoors so far. [grin] [grin]

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jovial \JOH-vee-uhl\, adjective:
Merry; joyous; jolly; characterized by mirth or jollity.

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[Eek!] columbines bit the dust!
[grin] iris,leopard lily lily of the nile; black berry lily, rose of sharons are doing great!!!!!

hope your love lies bleeding dose good, get alot of seeds from one bloom

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[Eek!] [shocked] [clappy] oh wow sybil! I never thought of the paper towel thing! I think I will try it because last year I did the peat moss thing and I guess I overwatered because they all got moldy & died. I really want to try the Oriental Poppy this way, the seeds are almost too small to see! And this method will save me money for sure, thank you for posting this! [kissies] Will keep ya' updated!

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sibyl
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[thumb] let us know what all you start ks!

2 of the beauty berry bushes just germinated! gonna put em in pots !!

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Oh, I bet those bushes will be pretty when they've grown!

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[thumb] let us know what all you start ks!

Will do! [thumb] I am really excited to try this, but I need to get a few things, and I want a fluorescent light so they have good lighting. My breakfast nook will look like a greenhouse come March! [clappy] I still need some more seeds, but I do have some here to start out with, & definitely need to get in on the seed exchanges now!

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DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU!=O)

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Sybi, I'm sorry to hear about your Columbines. [Frown] Any idea what may have happened? I guess this is an awesome way to learn when we do things wrong. There can be directions to seed sowing, but not all of them a fool proof.
ksgardnr, I agree the paper towel thing is an awesome idea. I just put in some Kellogg's Breakfast Tomatoes and artichoke to germinate this way we'll see what happens.

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Yay!! Sybyl, I love the plastic baggie/paper towel method! I have columbines and rose of sharon starting to sprout!! I'll have to refrain from starting everything right now because I am so excited about this! Or my dining room will look like a greenhouse too! I also did some the traditional way, but no progress yet. A friend of mine has a solarium room and he is out of town this week. I may have to invade while he is gone!
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I have a question......I would like to start some seeds with a baggie and paper towel but am wondering if they need to be in bright light??

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yay!amy! [clappy] [Big Grin] i have to stop myself too! how lucky your friend is to have a solar room! ive been looking into some solar panels myself!

i didnt have light for mine, soon as they sprout out of their seeds i put em in small pots back in their baggies, when they get leaves then i put en in light, [thumb] hope that helps plantqueen

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Thank you sibyl! I will be starting some this week then! As soon as I clean the house! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] No, it's not that bad...just like to get that stuff done first. Doesn't mean it will happen though! [Big Grin]

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We're going to start a garden club in our area. So I may be starting some seeds for other people. Still looking for homes for my larger plants. I just don't think I'll be able to move them with me.

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I just came home from walmart, bought those jiffy peat pellets, 25 for a dollar, not bad! Going to start whatever I can!

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[thumb] keep us posted kenny

my blue flag iris and lilies are doing great,

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heres a pic of some
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Looks good so far!!

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Well finally after how long? I've decided what I want to start indoors. At least I think I've decided. If you see any no no's on my list please let me know. Sometimes I make booboo's.

Bronze Fennel
Egyptian Walking Onion
Banana Peppers (anyone know how many per person)
Hycinth Bean Vine 5
Heart Seed Vine
Licorice Basil
Madagascar Jasmine 'Stephanotis Floribunda'
Aster 'Matsumoto Red Stripe'
Cantaloupe 'Ambrosia Hybrid'
Marigolds double dwarf 'French Vanilla'

I'm not sure if I'll get them in there cups today or not but sometime this week is my goal.

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TAmmy, I've never grown hyacinth beans before, and I want to this year! I remember you telling me they need a big pot and I read they grow really fast and also beans don't transplant easily...so I'm not too sure if you should start yours this early (I should say should I start mine too? [Big Grin] )

On the other hand, I nicked five canna seeds and put them in warm water. covered the cup and put it on top of the furnace, changed the water once and they had a little radical poking out the second day! I planted four of them (tossed the last one out [Frown] because it didn't have a root but still swelled...didn't want to get another pellet, the lazy me!) I have four pellets in which I sowed basil seeds in and another four pellets which I sowed some peppermint stick zinnias in...let's see what else I can start! I potted up five calla bulbs and let's hope they make it through this winter so I can put them out in spring...all I need is room!

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Hey Kenny I'm in zone 7a so I can plant out on April 15th. So I'm probably a little earlier than you.

And your right I do need to put the hycinth bean vine in the direct sow pile rather than starting it indoors. Thankyou for the reminder.

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Tammy you're so lucky to be in 7a. I think I'm a 5a/b It would be nice to grow things hardy to zone 6 and 7 without having to dig them out every fall (cannas, callas, 4:00s...)

I sowed peppermint strick zinina seeds into four jiffy peat pellets and they have all sprouted. I can see the little white elbow sprouts!

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kenny i just googled them! those are realy pretty!

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I have enjoyed reading this string of dialogue. A comment about seeds and light. Some seeds do need light to germinate while other need darkness. If you just Google the seeds name you can find out its requirements. Some require cooling periods (Stratifying) to help break dormancy and some by just cooling them you will get higher germination rates.

I am not a fan of the peat pellets because once the peat has been compressed I think it changes the peat structure and you do not get as good of air exchange. I like the biodegradable pots that you can plant and I use a seeds starting mix in them. This way the root structure does not get altered.

I am about to start my seeds, about 2 more weeks. My heirloom tomato seeds arrived today and cant wait to get them going!

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Kenny I feel ya. But when u start feeling down about your zone. Just think about all those people who are worse off, like me [Razz] . And even then I don't care what they say. I want to have everything ready for that day when I can finally plant outside. So even my Zone 3 hasn't stopped me from beginning my seeds. Cuz right after our last frost summer is really hot here. I have a beautiful indoor garden happening. wanna see?

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cancolgirl i wanna see!

buglady, i use those biodegadable pot for plants that dont like root disturbance [thumb]
clematis need winter sown wich is proubly why mine havent done anything, so im gonna try em the wintersown way, [Wink]

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When getting your biodegradable pots you need to make sure you get the ones WITHOUT holes in them. The pots WITH holes will not allow roots to penetrate through until the pot starts to break down, those are peat pots. the pots without holes are woodfiber pots and the roots will pop out of the pots faster then the other pots. they don't have holes because they are so porous they don't need holes.

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So when I started in Dec. I had one shelf unit. I got another shelf as i was running out of room on just one. This is the original setup
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And this is my most recent setup
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Plants: 80 | From: Calgary, AB | Registered: Aug 2006  |  Seeded: 24.71.223.149
penny in ontario
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What a great set up you have!!!!

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Plants: 30858 | From: Ontario | Registered: Sep 2005  |  Seeded: 74.120.36.85
kennyso
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I can't see the zinnia sprouts anymore! [Embarrassed] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] hopefully they'll pop back up

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Plants: 1697 | From: Ontario, Canada | Registered: May 2006  |  Seeded: 74.121.105.174
Nettie
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What kind of soil did you use for propagation? Maybe you have damp-off problems. The soil can be detrimental to seedlings at times if you don't use a "soil-less" mix. I thought starting zinnias in January is awful early. They grow relatively fast.

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Plants: 5 | From: Western New York, USA | Registered: Jan 2007  |  Seeded: 12.31.22.12
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I start my zinnias in late feb. if you start them to soon and don't have enough light they will stretch and not be able to hold their flower heads up later in life.

Yes.. damping off can be a big issue. Make sure you do not have a fungus gnat issues because they make the problem much worse by 1. vectoring the different damping off pathogens 2. the larva of the fungus gnats eat the roots of your seedling, and can cause death in young plants.

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Plants: 435 | From: PA | Registered: Jan 2004  |  Seeded: 64.12.117.7
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If you do have a gnat issue and it hasn't gotten too out of hand, I have success using the sticky strips to catch airborne gnats before they can lay more eggs. Actualy, as a precaution I add a stick pad just for peace of mind around my indoor seedlings.

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Plants: 5 | From: Western New York, USA | Registered: Jan 2007  |  Seeded: 12.31.22.12
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yes... yellow sticky cards are great for adult fungus gnats ! i love them and make my customers use them.

If you do get them and really want to stop them benefical nematodes are the way to go! and organic!

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Plants: 435 | From: PA | Registered: Jan 2004  |  Seeded: 205.188.116.9
kennyso
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Thanks for the advice! I use compressed peat pellets that I get from Walmart, might be because someone kicked the dish with the pellets on top of the heater, that's where I found them this morning, oh well...:sigh:

Yes, I know zinnias wren't the best choice to start, but I just wanted to get something green going! LOL that winter bl;ues have got me! I'll try to sow a few more wonderegg seeds later tonight

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Plants: 1697 | From: Ontario, Canada | Registered: May 2006  |  Seeded: 74.121.105.174
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sorry.. I know I am the bringer of bad news. Usually I bring the bad bug news. This is what happens when you start researching this stuff. Also I am in the nursery business so I have to know what really works for my growers. (I also teach plant propagation at the local college)

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Plants: 435 | From: PA | Registered: Jan 2004  |  Seeded: 205.188.116.9
kennyso
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No need to be sorry! WE same the same profession, I'm the one who brings bad news to my friends and people around me...must be nice to be in the nursey business. It's going to be some time before I kno wenough to teach at a college! You advice is certainly most valuable to me!

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Plants: 1697 | From: Ontario, Canada | Registered: May 2006  |  Seeded: 74.121.105.174
sibyl
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cancolgirl i love your set up!!!!!!


buglady i didnt know you teach plant propagation!! kennys right your advice would be greatly valued to us! [flower]

right now im learning about the tacca bat plant seeds! cause i got some! their seeds can take a month to 9 months to germinate! i hope i get it right, i so love this plant!

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Plants: 5109 | From: p.a zone-6a | Registered: May 2004  |  Seeded: 65.162.208.126
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