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by firebetty on January 22, 2005 11:55 PM
Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum. I was trying to find information on how to revive a wilty Bow Tie Vine.

Here's what it's SUPPOSED to look like

http://www.eaplants.goldphoria.com/catalog/item/1238430/760350.htm#image_1

I planted it in the fall last year. It was perfectly healthy then, but it hasn't ever really looked happy where I planted it. It gets full sun most of the day, and I have watered it sufficiently, and even gave it a nice dose of plant food. But it's not happy. Is there anything I am forgetting? It doesn't seem to want to cling to the wood slats that it's planted next to. It just looks very tired and wilty. It's right next to the house, so do you think the ground is too shallow? Help! It was an expensive plant, and I don't want to kill it. I'd rather move the thing if necessary.

Thanks for any help you can offer.
firebetty
by Jiffymouse on January 23, 2005 02:04 AM
fire betty, i couldn't get your link to open... and i am not familiar with that plant... but... welcome to the garden helper and maybe someone soon will stop in who knows...
by weezie13 on January 23, 2005 02:16 AM
Hello FireBetty,
Welcome to The Garden Helper's Forum!!
We are very glad you found us!!!

Got some questions for you and your plant!!!!

#1. A. What growing zone are you? 10????
B.Is the plant still outside???

#2. What is
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and I have watered it sufficiently
Did you water it and let it dry out, or kept it moist constantly??

#3. What kind of soil did you plant it in?

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It's right next to the house
What type of house/ or bottom of your house is it, like cement, wood, plastic???

My first guess is, you should take it inside
if your weather has been cold, I don't know how
warm or cold you've been, but that would be a big
factor, they are extremely cold sensitive..

Weezie

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by firebetty on January 23, 2005 06:42 AM
Hi, thanks for your responses.

Let me see if I can clarify.

My growing zone is 10.

I water it every two to three days. I read that it likes a lot of moisture. However, we DID just get two weeks of rain in in L.A. I thought that it might be the culprit, but ALL of my other plants are fine. Even the ones that don't particularly like a lot of water.

I'm not exactly sure what kind of soil I planted it in..it was just the soil that existed. It was a potted plant when I purchased it and I kept the existing soil around the root system.

It's planted next to the concrete foundation. with about a half a foot distance to the wall.

Unfortunately, I can not bring the plant inside. Because it is so viney, and has SOME established attached parts to the wood trellis that is attached to the house. It doesn't ever get that cold in Los Angeles, and actually the last week or so, we've been having 75 degree weather during the day, with lows only in the high 50's. Before that, we had a few days that were in the 40s...but no frost or anything.

I have some photos of it, but I'm not sure if there is a way to post photos on this forum.

I don't think the link in my original post is active, you can just copy the link, and paste it into the browser address window.

Thanks again, for any help.
by firebetty on January 23, 2005 06:55 AM
I figured out how to post photos...

Here are two images.

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by Cricket on January 23, 2005 07:35 AM
Hi FireBetty! [wayey]

I can't see the 2 pics you posted but your original link works for me...what a beautiful vine! I LOVE purple/magenta flowers!!
by weezie13 on January 23, 2005 07:39 AM
I couldn't see either of them, also tried to copy and paste the properties and do a google search, but still came up with nothing....

Here's some places that you can download
pictures to **For FREE** and then link them to
us here, I believe thru the IMAGE button below...

WebShots
PhotoBucket
Imagestation

We'll keep tryin', don't give up hope!!!

Weezie

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by Jiffymouse on January 23, 2005 05:13 PM
i got the link to work, and it is a beautiful vine. i am wondering if it is like my coral vine. very tempermental. and maybe just "pouting"
by njoynit on January 23, 2005 09:09 PM
Its a sub tropical vine.I'm still looking for more info on it,but its for your zone.(I like that vine of yours.I'll be looking for one)

1 when in the day is it getting sun?
You wouldn't want hottest part of day.front of house will hold heat& some things if you get cooler temps you don't want the sun hitting them 1st thing in morning.it can burn the foliage

2 what type of fertilizer.
From what have read it says use a phrosperous fertilizer in the spring& the fall.i understand the vine blooms in late summer.your fertilizer would need to have a higher PH# is middle #.

3What type of soil at base of house.
You can take some of the soil put in a bag and carry to county Extension office.but I would ammend the existing soil.did you use just the soil it came with?My cuz swears Calif has some of the worst soil.I know he "above ground gardens".

you say the leaves look wilty.do they feel dry? or do they still feel the same.& how tall did your vine grow?says they grow 5 ft& in container they grow 2-3 feet.
I'll look some more.

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by firebetty on January 24, 2005 12:58 AM
Hi everyone, thanks so much for all your replies. I'm attempting to upload the images again, but at half the size of my original attempt.

The vine gets sun at about 3pm thru sunset. I've started to wonder if perhaps it's just adjusting to the new environment. Like a ficus tree, maybe it's just temperamental. I know that the vine is from Costa Rica, so I can assume that it needs a lot of water.

Hopefully, the links for the photos will work.
let me know.

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by firebetty on January 24, 2005 01:00 AM
If the photos don't appear, try these links.

Bow Tie 01 Bow Tie 2
by afgreyparrot on January 24, 2005 03:11 PM
Firebetty...
I've done some "stuff" [lala] to your url address for your photos and can only come up with a page at yahoo that says I don't have permission to access.

If you want to email the pics to me, I'll put them on here, then we'll work on getting your photos where you can post them with no problem.

I PM'd you my email address.

Cindy

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by suzydaze on January 24, 2005 04:59 PM
that is the prettiest vine I think I have seen in a while.

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by njoynit on January 24, 2005 05:56 PM
Well I dug around this morning.I have e mailed raintree.com...they are a tropical plant data base&are "claimed" to be the most complete tropical sub-tropical plant database.you can usually search for detailed info on a plant on their site.

I found http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Euphorbiaceae/Dalechampia_dioscoraefolia.html this on desert- tropicals.

says it will recover from light frosts which will do some damage to the leaves.(Its shaded in the morning if sun is later in day till sunset,which means will stay cooler right there before warming up)

Gotta share this one being in same area.
http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Euphorbiaceae/Dalechampia_roezliana.html
That must be the wild one huh.
I did finaly run into a page that said are pollinated by a tropical bee& listed as grown from cuttings& seed.was from a plant collecter in madagascar.

I couldn't make the pics out.so will check back.

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by weezie13 on January 24, 2005 06:44 PM
Njoynit,
I just edited your post,
I put a space between the word found and http
so people could click on the link....

Weezie

P/S I looked around too to find out what kind of soil it liked, like acid or alkaline, staight peatmoss, or something, couldn't find a thing...
Come acrossed anything???

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by njoynit on January 24, 2005 08:34 PM
moist soil....but thats a condition.I would think organically rich would fit the bill being they grow in a rainforest on the floor....decomposeing rainforest nurishing the plants.no word from raintree forest yet. I'm searching under plant family now: Euphorbiacea

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by firebetty on January 29, 2005 05:59 AM
Cross your fingers that this works!

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Here are the images of the Bowtie Vine. If it looks to anyone like this is normal behavior for the plant in the winter, please let me know...I am just new at this whole thing, and also, this is such a rare vine.

thanks!
by afgreyparrot on January 29, 2005 06:27 AM
Don't know anything about the vine, but the pictures look good!
[thumb]

Cindy

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by njoynit on January 29, 2005 03:31 PM
It don't look too bad.I see you don't mulch your vine.I'd mulch it with the price of ya'lls water out there.I'd be tempted to richin the soil...maybe some compost or a bag of mushroom compost(.93@ wallyworld here)

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by Jiffymouse on January 29, 2005 04:27 PM
[thumb] that's what i'd do, mulch, mulch, mulch [thumb]
by firebetty on January 30, 2005 11:25 PM
I recently put in some river rocks to help keep the moisture in. Right now is our rainy season, so I don't have to water too much.

Do you think it's just the season? It doesn't seem to want to cling to the wood trellis.
by njoynit on January 31, 2005 12:58 AM
I asked my cuz...out yonder on the west coast and this was what he said.

Here in California it is used outdoors in warmer zone 9/10 locations, and is
usually in full bloom from mid summer into December or January if planted in a
wind protected spot that gets reflected heat. It is a tropical vine, but is
said to be root hardy to 25F or so, but typically drops foliage in my garden by
January even without frost, and doesn't start growing again until it warms up in
April. It will probably need very bright light to grow indoors/greenhouse to
bloom, and as it is a rampant grower, I would suggest it is better in containers
for summer/fall display outdoors, and then wack it back and bring inside for
winter in zone 8 locations. This vine is as vigorous in habit as Thunbergia
grandiflora, and seems to prefer similar growing conditions to bloom. It is a
much more reliable bloomer in cooler summer conditions, as it doesn't need high
heat to perform well. I've seen it completely covering a 20 foot tall by 30
foot wide wall here in Berkeley, and simply co!
vered in bloom, for at least 9 months out of the year. It also does set some
small amount of seed under our conditions, and is related to Pointsettias and
Euphorbias! It is probably also available mailorder from places like Kartuz
Greenhouses in Vista, Calif, or as 1 and 5 gallons sized plants at nurseries in
southern California, or special ordered from wholesale growers like San Marcos
Growers in Santa Barbara,(no mail order, retail sales, or shipping out of
state).

For me it has done pretty well as a container plant in less than full sun in a
15 gallon container, but blooms more prolifically in full sun and more heat, and
is fairly drought tolerant once established,(in habitat in Costa Rica it grows
in seasonally winter dry deciduous forest, so is adapted to several months of no
rain in the cooler months).

And wants me to grow in a pot...ha ha.I'll cheat.I'll pot up for winter.lol

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by firebetty on February 02, 2005 06:00 AM
Ahh! Great. That kindof tells me that maybe it's just adapting, and perhaps I planted it at a bad time of year. I can't imagine having it indoors. If you look at the photos, the top of the wood trellis is about 5' high.

thanks so very much for all your help. I'll keep you all posted on what happens with my little vine.

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