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Bill
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As much as I hate to do it, sometimes I have to be the bad guy who says NO! [Frown]

I am referring to "Hot Linking" to animations and graphics from other web sites.... Hot linking is when you create a link directly to files on a different site, rather than to a web page.

The problem with this is that you are basically stealing the bandwidth that the owner of the site has paid for. It puts an extra load on the owner's server, slowing that site down for legitimate visitors.

Webmasters are only allowed a certain amount of bandwidth usage before they are charged extra fees, and even though the graphics may be small in size, they tend to add up when a lot of people start hot linking.

This bandwidth theft by members of other message boards has become enough of a significant problem for me that I have been planning on removing the entire animation collection from this site...... sigh...... something I do not want to have to do! (These people who have been hotlinking to our images appear to only visit The Garden Helper to grab the URLs to use elsewhere)

I know that many of you have been enjoying the ability to decorate your posts with graphics, and I'm not about to ruin your fun. However, I'm afraid that we'll have to set a rule or two....

First and foremost... DO NOT hotlink to graphics or files from sites! This does not mean that you can't provide a link to a web page on a different site, nor to your own photographs located elsewhere.

I will remove illegal hotlinks to any other type of file.

Rather than removing my collection, I will leave it intact, but soon I will be setting it up to only be accessed with a password which I will gladly provide to members of OUR forum.

Your are welcome to hotlink to OUR collection of graphics. Please don't use excessive amounts in any single post because this slows the loading time of pages for people using dialup connections.

If you'd like to add a graphic to your post, go to http://www.thegardenhelper.com/Animationsgraphics.html and search through the collection until you find what fits your mood.

If you use Netscape, right click on the image, then select "copy image location" You can then paste this URL int the UBB "Image" pop up box and post it.

If you use Internet Explorer, right click on the image, then select "properties" (at the bottom of the list). Highlight the web URL, then copy it and paste into the UBB "Image" pop up box and post it.

I don't like making rules or being a mean old man, but... I have to do what is right. I hope that you all understand!

Have fun!!!
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Jillie
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Ah, Bill, you're not a meanie at all. Although I don't throrughly understand the hot-linking stuff, I do understand about maintaining a reasonably tight ship and protecting what you have, here. Hooray for your dilligence. I only just learned about how to use this site's animations and I'm glad you're reserving stuff just for us. Right on!

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From: Ugh...Van Nuys, CA | Registered: Nov 2003  |  IP: Logged
plants 'n pots
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I'm sorry Bill [Embarrassed] - I agree with everything that Jillie has said. And I, too, don't know much about how these things work. [dunno] So, please, go ahead and do what you need to do to keep these forums as wonderful as they are. [thumb] I've never heard of hotlinking before - is that when you take the properties link from a picture and post that? So, would that mean that I shouldn't use the picture in my signature either? [tears]

Whatever is best for the gardenhelper is what I shall do. Thanks again for providing the opportunity for us to be here! [clappy] [clappy] [clappy]

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Bill
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Shhhhhhhhh... I fixed it so you could keep your signature button, Lynne!

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From: Cedar Hill Washington | Registered: Aug 2002  |  IP: Logged
plants 'n pots
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THANK YOU SO MUCH, oh KING of forum websites!!! [Cool] [Cool] [Cool]

mums the word!!! [thumb]

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Jiffymouse
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Bill, a man has to do what a man has to do, and I am glad you are using INTEGRITY in your web site. Thanks for the heads up!

By the way, integrity and honor are a lot more attractive than pretty pictures!! [kissies]

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From: Effingham County, GA USA Z 8b | Registered: Aug 2002  |  IP: Logged
weezie13
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Ditto Jiffy!!!!
[clappy] [Cool] [kissies]
Weezie

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Don't forget to be kind to strangers. For some who have
done this have entertained angels without realizing it.
- Bible - Hebrews 13:2

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plants 'n pots
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Just curious Bill ~

does this also mean that we cannot use different color fonts here that take certain codes? I just learned about this at another site and was wondering if this would mess things up here also?

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Bill
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No, I'm afraid that you can't set font colors or styles. That takes HTML coding which I chose to disallow for members use. I decided to only allow the UBB code which uses an entirely different set of tags. Improper HTML coding could definately make a mess that I would have to track down and clean up.

Sorry!

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plants 'n pots
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Okie dokie - that's fine. [thumb]

Was just wondering...

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gardengal
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You are not so mean, Bill. We all think you're wonderful. Thanks for explaining why those pics are a no-no in such a nice way. [wayey]

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Women and cats will do as they please. Men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea.

From: The real OC in sunny So. Cal. | Registered: Aug 2003  |  IP: Logged
Lilyfreak
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I agree too!! Most people who spend time on boards, know that is a common rule of courtesy, but sometimes newbies don't realize so it's good to explain just what it is.

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M. D. Vaden of Oregon
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I just posted a couple of photos on the

"posting your own photos" thread - a grass, and a bird.

Was that what you call hot linking?

It seems that that traces to my webpage, but I'm just a learner on this stuff, you let me know.

Thanks.

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Web Site

Oregon Bigfoot Trap trail

Photo Albums - Oregon Scenery & Tree Care

From: Jacksonville (Ruch), Oregon | Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged
Bill
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Hi M.D., Welcome to our little group! It's nice to have another Northwesterner here....

No, that is not "hot linking" because they are your photos, on your site, and that is just fine! [grin]

Hot linking would be if I were to use your photo on my site (using your servers facilities...) under the premise that it was my picture... (does that make sense?)

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M. D. Vaden of Oregon
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Bill,

Your profile indicates Sultan, Wa - I had never heard of that city before, but I have now. You are not far away.

The farthest north I went this year, was Ape Caves, not far from Mount St. Helens.

Thanks for the assistance.

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Oregon Bigfoot Trap trail

Photo Albums - Oregon Scenery & Tree Care

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Buglady
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This forum is 1000 times better then *********.... thanks for letting me help all out here. ********* told me to participate on their boards i had to advertise with them because i am a business (but i don't make my living from homeowners)

Thanks again for letting me share my info and photos.

Suzanne
aka Buglady

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Suzanne Wainwright-Evans, www.bugladyconsulting.com
Educating the world... one bug at a time

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catlover
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You are a blessing to the site and for ALL the people who buzz through here!!

Thanks BugLady for sharing your knowledge!!!! [thumb]
Catlover [wayey]

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Pineapple_Raye
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Greeting Bill,

I was just browsing looking for a new gardening site when I came across yours.

I have had much problems with hotlink of my personal stuff I set up for my gaming friends, gardeners, and food smoking friend.

I don't know if you have solve your problem, but I did using a simple program. It is off of PC Man Web site. It allows you to enter the URL that are permitted to link/ use your images etc. All other sites cannot link. Just put your site's URL in the first "allowed" and no other URL and that is it it. Download the file that is creates and then upload it into the directory you want protected. Or if you want your whole site protected then place it in your root directory.

PC ManWebSite

BTW I have a sig-pic but have not set it up. I linked it below. Please tell me if there is a problem with me using it.
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From: St. Petersburg Florida | Registered: Jul 2004  |  IP: Logged
Bill
The Garden Helper


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[wayey] Hi Raye! Welcome to our forum, and thank you for the "no hot link" link!
You are welcome to use your Pineapple Raye photo as your signature.... [Wink]

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KDH
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Hello Everyone,

I just joined this site today, and I am finding a wonderful, very soul-filled group. As a gardener, and someone who truly feels that this is a gift from God, I see that this group is very sharing, loving and knowledgable. Please, keep the information flowing (as best as we can). This site is very much needed as gardeners, we need as much educated information as possible. Yes, some may share their experience that will not be as accurate as can be, however, we must use discernment..as much as possible. The information is sent with the best of intentions..We only can share what we have experienced...

Kindest Regards,
Karen

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Avalon
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quote:


I am referring to "Hot Linking" to animations and graphics from other web sites.... Hot linking is when you create a link directly to files on a different site, rather than to a web page.

The problem with this is that you are basically stealing the bandwidth that the owner of the site has paid for. It puts an extra load on the owner's server, slowing that site down for legitimate visitors.

Webmasters are only allowed a certain amount of bandwidth usage before they are charged extra fees, and even though the graphics may be small in size, they tend to add up when a lot of people start hot linking.
[/QB]

I have my own web site where I store my graphics for posting. If you need help with your bandwidth I'd be willing to donate through Paypal to help.

I can make a payment through Paypal to anyone with an e-mail address.

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afgreyparrot
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I don't think Bill accepts any donations, but I'll be glad to give you my email address if you want to put it in my Pay Pal account! [Big Grin]


(Oh, I'm just kidding, Bill!) [Big Grin]
(I can just see Bill giving me this look [Frown] !)

Cindy

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Bill
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Thank you for the offer, Avalon, but Cindy is right. I decided long ago that I wouldn't take money from our members or guests to support the site. I do appreciate the offer though... to me, that's better than money! (because it shows me that you're happy here) [kissies]

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afgreyparrot
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Uhhh......
So, who calls you "Mr. Mean"? [nutz]

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Bill
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I was called Mr. Mean when I used to drive the school bus (but I really wasn't mean..... I just didn't take any guff from the lil darlins.. [angel] )
When I posted this topic, the name seemed to fit! [devil]

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Sorellina
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For what it's worth, I like the font you chose as a default. Icons can be interesting but too many of them can also make a message a bit "busy". Just my 5c CDN.
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pattioh
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Hi Bill,

Another newbie here. As I am getting to know my way around this site I'm liking it more and more. I still don't understand the hot linking thing.......BUT

[nutz] (I've been known to be a little thick-shhhh!)

Rules that keep this site functional are good, not mean at all. [Wink]

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Huntington
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Hello Bill:
Let me echo the postive commnts above. Am totally brown-thumbed when it comes to gardening. Have learned much fom browsing this site and even manageed to send my first offering--red sedum--to seed exchange.
Your forum is not only informative, it is absolutely entertaining as well.

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Jimmy_Hitler
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yes. hotlinking is a bad thing. i always tell people not to do it when im in different forums. thanks for telling everyone!
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[flower] Hi I am new. This is my first time on this site and I have fallen in love with it. I just recently got a purple passion plant from a friend. In the past I have been terrible at raising plants but this purple passion has been growing wonderfully. I am absolutly in love with this plant

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You have to leave the past behind to move into the future......

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Hey Mr. Bill.. This is why I'm stuck on this site because you SET STANDARDS AND IMPLIMENT THEM [critic] for this reason as well as great people and topics here I recommend my family and friends [flower]

oh! OH!! But then again I haven't been to....
'Area 51' Have I? [Roll Eyes] [lala] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Mr. Mean?? I think NOT!! Just Pappa Bear Looking out in keeping us in a safe zone [kissies]

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Bill
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Just Pappa Bear Looking out in keeping us in a safe zone
Pappa Bear... I like that... [Embarrassed] thank you!

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loz
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for this reason as well as great people and topics here I recommend my family and friends
[thumb] That's so great Angel....I may be biased but I really do think this is the BEST gardening site on the web..... [clappy] I'm glad you love it as much as we all do!

Papa Bear does a great job of keeping it up and running for us all [kissies] ....hey [thinker] does this make me Sister Bear?????? [Big Grin] [dunno] [thumb]

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Bill
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does this make me Sister Bear?
Lil' Sister Bear! [kissies]

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