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rue anemone
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We have had a small formal pond 2 feet by 4 feet for at least 5 years.

I dug a hole and put a 45 tarp from the hardware store in it and filled it with water. The next year I decided it was way too small so I redug (is that a word?) it to that 2 x 4 size.

I have 3 pond comets and 1 koi.

When we moved into our house there was already a wall fountain on the side of the garage. The pond is situated under the fountain. There are more pictures of my yard in the garden tour album at: http://groups.msn.com/IrvingtonGardenClub/2003gardentour.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=5

The other houses in that album are from our neighborhood.

This year I decided I wanted a more natural one and bigger. I received left over scraps of EPDM pond liner. I have tried to fix a leak that keeps springing up but I think I will have to replace the whole thing. Anyway of course I want the pond BIGGER!!

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rue anemone
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What is a 45 tarp? LOL! It should have been $5 tarp.

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catlover
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Yours is beautiful......I have a spot I would love to put one in but I want it giganto! What depth is yours?

I have problems with gophers so am thinking after renting a jack hammer to cut through all the granite....lining the bottom with 1/4" mesh wire and then more dirt or sand and then the liner!!!! Are there good filtration systems out there? At that location there is a bouganvilla not to far away (alot of pink leaves) and a weeping birch tree and you know the mess once a year with those!!! I would be willing to screen the top but wonder if that would just be toooo messy for a pump/filtration system.....oh it would also have to be deep because we have those white cranes that are around 3-4ft tall that love the koi fish around here!

It is on a bank and would love to build a rock formation along the top and sides!!! Am I just dreaming....I can picture it everytime I see that spot! And have kept it clear....thinking!!!! [dunno]

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rue anemone
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My formal pond is 18 inches deep. It is in complete shade in the summer. When the leaves start to fall I do put a screen over it to keep out the leaves.

My small pond is in the shade, is crystal clear and has no pump. But during the winter when there is no shade it does turn a bit murky.

My natural pond is 2 feet deep. I have a small waterfall. I hope it will look like an underground spring bubbling up.

We have trouble with egrets, but for some reason they have never bothered my small pond. I have been told that the 24 inches will be too deep for them. But the whole thing is not that deep just one section that is about 2 and 1/2 feet i diameter

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rue anemone
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Thanks for the comments.

Gophers eat through the liner?

Could you build a raised pond? And not have to use a jackhammer?

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catlover
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Yep right through liners and anything else in there darn way they like my cactus/succulents.....that thing had the nerve (lol) to eat all the way to the base of several and literally push them up over the rest of them and down the little embankment [Mad] [Mad] You don't mess with my cactus!!!!!.....do they have nose weight lifting classes for gophers????? They are a pain in the you know what! I have used my cats (they got a few)....those smoke sticks....dug and put metal traps(the kill ones, smooshed dead)....and have a thing that looks like a lethal weapon to inject poison in the ground!!!! Yep liner would be history in about 2 seconds!

I kinda like that idea of building on top....but would have to build up the other area around it at least a little for a good depth! Maybe some bigger boulders!!!!
[thinker] Hmmmmmm.....That is something to ponder on... thanks for your help!!!!

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njoynit
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I have a 100 gallon pond probably about 2 ft wide and 4 ft long but is a pre formed pond....a real pain for moveing and setting in right.I've used both PVC liner and this pre formed thing...prefer the PVC liner.my previous PVC liner pond was when lived in INDY and was 3 ft by 8ft and maybe 4 ft deep in center and was squeezed in a corner.if you pushed mower through in wrong spot it would go into the pond.
I still want a bigger pond.I moved my pond from shade to sun and does better in sun for me,but it does get some shade in afternoon& has plants that help shade the water durring the summer.for algee problem can add 1 cup of distilled vineger to 100 gallon of water and not harm plants or fish& will control algee
I'd like to do a new pond with waterfall and 3 levels,but only with PVC liner not that pre formed thing& have a creek area with pond mortor& have rocks stuck in it and get the water flow just right to look like it flows

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Barb H.
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I would love a pond...but don't see that happening anytime soon with all of the other landscaping projects...but....

Does anyone know anything about this???

Getting a galvanized container....and putting some water plants in them, and also maybe some fish? I would LOVE something easy like this to try, and I think my kids would love to help me make one, not to mention the fish! But what kind of fish, how would one clean it, or would one?

Anyone know anything about this sort of thing?

It's not a pond, but I think it might be a fun thing to try and inexpensive to boot! It wouldn't need a pump, would it? I'd want something very simple.

Barbara

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barb, one of the local places here has one just about like you describe. i think the problem would be that you live where it might freeze. that is the only draw back i see at all. and i do know that there are some folks who use heaters for their ponds due to the location, so i think you could have some good luck!
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rue anemone
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I know someone that moved and put his fish in a big galvanized tub while he was waiting for the permanent pond to be built. the fish did fine. He did have a pump.

I have a water trough heater from TSC (tractor supply company) for my small pond.

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Barb H.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jiffymouse:
barb, one of the local places here has one just about like you describe. i think the problem would be that you live where it might freeze. that is the only draw back i see at all. and i do know that there are some folks who use heaters for their ponds due to the location, so i think you could have some good luck!

Jiffy,
Thanks for replying! Well, I was going to do it in the spring/summer..once it warmed up enough to start planting. I was thinking that if the goldfish survived the summer, come October I'd bring them in and keep them in a tank? I'm in zone 6.
[flower] [flower] Barb

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Barb H.
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quote:
Originally posted by rue anemone:
I know someone that moved and put his fish in a big galvanized tub while he was waiting for the permanent pond to be built. the fish did fine. He did have a pump.

I have a water trough heater from TSC (tractor supply company) for my small pond.

Rue,

Thanks for replying! I saw that idea on a home show on HGTV, I think, but can't remember the details whether or not there was a pump or it was just a bucket and some plants! Maybe there wasn't a fish in it....but maybe just plants then, hmm? [thinker]

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Sherri
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Barb,
My Aunt has a beautiful pond in her backyard that she keeps fish in. She waits till all danger of frost is over then brings them out. At the end of summer when danger of frost begins again, she brings them back in the their "winter home". She loses some once and awhile but she has this one fellow who has been around for 4 years now!

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Barb H.
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quote:
Originally posted by Sherri:
Barb,
My Aunt has a beautiful pond in her backyard that she keeps fish in. She waits till all danger of frost is over then brings them out. At the end of summer when danger of frost begins again, she brings them back in the their "winter home". She loses some once and awhile but she has this one fellow who has been around for 4 years now!

Sherri,

Does she have a pump in the pond, or is it a natural one? I think it's a great idea and I think the kids would love it!

Barbara

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